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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 20:07:12 GMT -5
I wrote out my previous post on word pad..... that post was before I read these two! [quote I'll definitely be there to support VIP Wrestling. It looks like the people in charge know what they are doing. Is it that hard to understand that the same people in charge of CCW the last three plus years are the same one running these VIP shows? IS that hard to understand? How many times has Ricochet no showed Walt in CCW? More times than he will admit. Whose to say he won't do it again, then what? You guys come on here give your two cents. Bash the show and then claim you never did. Wrestling fans are so two faced its pitiful. [/quote] Sounds like you know a lot that's going on behind the scenes.... and you sure do seem to be posting right before/after nicwood... you guys setting next to one another, or are you nicwood? . I stand beside my words.....if I bash a show...I'm not going to take it back....my word is set in stone. If I'm wrong I will admit it.....but I garun-d**n-tee you can't find one post from me saying a show is sh.it...... and then turning around and saying it was great..... . I have been around wrestling long enough to know....sh.it happens! If someone "no shows" yeah it sucks....but that's the business! I'm going to give VIP my money because I like the vision of the company. I dont give a d**n if "Tommy No Name" gets in the ring...as long as he has the ability to "WRESTLE" i will give him my money. I'm tired of seeing people who put on tights and call themselves "wrestlers" when its obvious they are the furthest thing from it!
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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 20:19:48 GMT -5
"You are on here bashing NFW but the new CCW is a mirror image."
Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW? Pothead John. Thats it. Period. Just because the self proclaimed gods of marks so it, doesn't make it true.
"Sounds like VIP has their sh.it together"
Did they have it together when they ran CCW? No one has answered that yet. _______________________________________________________ You know, I'll give it ya! I never went to a NFW show....so I don't know who wrestled for them. I just know what some CCW faithful have told me . As for being the self proclaimed gods of marks.....
Show me where any of the O-boys have proclaimed ourselves the "Gods of Marks" We don't set in the crowd yelling out the next move, or set at home watching hours of video..... How do you figure we are "marks" ? ? ...... I don't even know what the hell happened between CCW and Walt. You keep saying "did they have their sh.it together when they ran CCW' I would have to say.... Yes, the shows I came to when Walt was running CCW had far better talent on hand than the new regime today
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Post by a truthful opinion on Mar 5, 2009 20:32:48 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?"
I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there?
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Post by rasslinfan on Mar 5, 2009 20:35:15 GMT -5
"the shows I came to when Walt was running CCW had far better talent on hand than the new regime today"
Really?
New Regime: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Ryder, Bull Pain, Alister Fear, Kyle Cobain, J-Boy, Steve Siegers, Brandon Espinosa
Old Regime: JP Lightning, Shank Barzini, Fury, you know I can't even think of anybody else because these were the feature guys. Come on. You can't serious with that statement.
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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 20:37:38 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?" I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there? When Walt was running CCW I recall seeing Claudio Castagnoli, Mike Quakenbush, Linc Darado, Dingo, Davey Richards, Jimmy Jacobs, and BJ Whitmer to name a few . Everyone of those guys are world renowned, some of the best wrestlers in the world!
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Post by rasslinfan on Mar 5, 2009 20:39:23 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?" I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there? Everyone of those guys were in CCW before NFW. Grunge and Blaze NEVER worked for NFW. They worked for Midwest Pro. The rest, all CCW guys. You do have a point. If WAlt couls bring in that talent, why didn't he do it at CCW? Wait for the spin by the oboys.
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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 20:41:19 GMT -5
" the shows I came to when Walt was running CCW had far better talent on hand than the new regime today" Really? New Regime: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Ryder, Bull Pain, Alister Fear, Kyle Cobain, J-Boy, Steve Siegers, Brandon Espinosa Old Regime: JP Lightning, Shank Barzini, Fury, you know I can't even think of anybody else because these were the feature guys. Come on. You can't serious with that statement. Tracy and Mitch where there when Walt was there....I even recall seeing J-boy a time or two as well as Pondo . Did you read my post right before this one? I just named some serious talent! The guys you just named from the Old Regime were not the "feature guys" that was the base roster.
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Post by rasslinfan on Mar 5, 2009 20:43:52 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?" I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there? When Walt was running CCW I recall seeing Claudio Castagnoli, Mike Quakenbush, Linc Darado, Dingo, Davey Richards, Jimmy Jacobs, and BJ Whitmer to name a few . Everyone of those guys are world renowned, some of the best wrestlers in the world! You must have stopped coming the last year Walt was there. And nothing went down between Walt and CCW. Walt was never fired. He no-showed the restart and tried to tell all of his boys to quit too. It was a dirty move. He could have came back but decided to walk away.
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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 20:44:25 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?" I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there? Everyone of those guys were in CCW before NFW. Grunge and Blaze NEVER worked for NFW. They worked for Midwest Pro. The rest, all CCW guys. You do have a point. If WAlt couls bring in that talent, why didn't he do it at CCW? Wait for the spin by the oboys. Hell you want to play it like that.....go back and check the history books ! Everyone of those guys on the NFW show was CCW back in the day. Master Rich, Champion where some of the originals. That's not a "spin" that's a FACT
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Post by iketurner on Mar 5, 2009 20:49:28 GMT -5
How many times has Ricochet no showed Walt in CCW? More times than he will admit. Whose to say he won't do it again, then what? You guys come on here give your two cents. Bash the show and then claim you never did. Wrestling fans are so two faced its pitiful. Rico has no showed a few times. Everyone has no shows. Chuck, Drake, JP and OMG are enough to put my butt in the seat. When did i ever bash CCW over a no show. There is an entire board of posts over there and id sure love to see you find it??? Also id like for you to explain to me how im two faced? You dont have to make things up to try to prove your point.
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Post by rasslinfan on Mar 5, 2009 20:50:16 GMT -5
we can go on with this all night. We are all passionate about this business. For someone to say CCW roster is a mirror image of NFW is false. COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!!!
I hope Walt does great. He obviously had a problem with not being able to run CCW anymore so he bolted. Fine. So he starts his own Fed. Fine again. Nobody has run up against CCW and succeeded yet. therefore I doubt Walt will try.
The better VIP does, the better CCW will do. These guys start coming down once a month and making money, who's to say they won't want to come down twice a month, or three times a month. CCW is always open, not only open once a month.
So I agree that competition is good for everybody.
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Post by iketurner on Mar 5, 2009 20:55:45 GMT -5
Who are the NFW guys on our show? John. That's it. There are no Flash Brothers, T-Bolt, Master Rich, Chris Champion, or any of those guys. Good luck Walt. It's awesome to see former CCW greats Ricochet, Drake Younger, and my favorite wrestler Chuck Taylor come back to Evansville. Whether it's at the Coliseum or not. Once word continues to spread that CCW isn't ran by who it was run by don't be surprised to see the Naptown Dragons, The Cereal Killers, and others in the hexagon. No NFW guys eh? Bad Boys, Pdub, Overdose, AC West, Steve Sommers, Cj Popp, Pretty Boy,Chris Phoenix, Canadian Kidd. Do i need to continue? There are more guys in CCW that were in NFW than werent. So let me get this part straight. The Naptown dragons and co., left CCW because of the people in charge? The people that used to run CCW started a new promotion and booked the naptown guys? Now that the naptown guys know those guys arent running CCW anymore they will come back to CCW? That doesnt really make any sense at all.
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Post by iketurner on Mar 5, 2009 21:07:54 GMT -5
"Not true. Who on the CCW roster worked for NFW?" I can tell you who has worked for NFW: Tracy Smothers, Mitch Rider, Jason Briley, Chris Thomas, Chris Phoenix, Evan Acid, Canadian Kid, J Grunge, and Anthony Blaze. Just to name a few. If you guys really think that Walt can bring in everyone that he claims, then why didnt he do it for CCW when he was there? Everyone of those guys were in CCW before NFW. Grunge and Blaze NEVER worked for NFW. They worked for Midwest Pro. The rest, all CCW guys. You do have a point. If WAlt couls bring in that talent, why didn't he do it at CCW? Wait for the spin by the oboys. I dont know why this all of the sudden has become Walt vs CCW? That isnt what this is about. I dont give a rats behind about what Walt did in CCW. All i know is this show looks good. Excuse me for liking the guys he has booked. Im not going to sit here and pretend to know what goes on behind the scenes and frankly i dont give a sh it. I want talent in the ring and i want to see wrestling. The names this guy has posted on here are names ive brought up thousands of times in CCW. I keep hearing be patient and be patient. Thats fine. I will. Like i have said, i'll be back in CCW when they book someone i like. If you have a problem with that, you know where i sit. The next time im there let me know. I dont hide behind a guest logon. You know me. I dont understand why personal attacks have came into this? I never attack anyone personally. I make it clear its biz. Some of the best wrestlers to ever walk through the halls of CCW have called us the best fans in CCW history. Guys like Terry Bull and company love to hear the show reviews. Im just kind lost on why there is all this hate toward us, and VIP for that matter.
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Post by MorrisDay on Mar 5, 2009 21:10:41 GMT -5
we can go on with this all night. We are all passionate about this business. For someone to say CCW roster is a mirror image of NFW is false. COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!!! I hope Walt does great. He obviously had a problem with not being able to run CCW anymore so he bolted. Fine. So he starts his own Fed. Fine again. Nobody has run up against CCW and succeeded yet. therefore I doubt Walt will try. The better VIP does, the better CCW will do. These guys start coming down once a month and making money, who's to say they won't want to come down twice a month, or three times a month. CCW is always open, not only open once a month. So I agree that competition is good for everybody. Half of the sh.it you have said on here is "COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!!!" . You don't know a f-king thing about me... obviously you know more about what happened behind the scenes than I do.... so how are you gonna set there and call me a "mark" When it's obvious who the bigger "mark" is. . I hope these guys do stick around the area and go to CCW week in and week out..... it would get more butts in the seats..... including mine. I want CCW to succeed just as much as you! None of us ever said we want VIP to put CCW out of business... We just want to see good wrestling.
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Post by a truthful opinion on Mar 5, 2009 21:18:31 GMT -5
rasslinfan , If you would check the history books you would know that NFW's last show at Midwest Pro Wrestling School featured a tag match with Damage Inc.'s own J. Grunge and Anthony Blaze vs. Just Plain Awful John and CJ Popp. I was there I watched it.
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