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Post by realsmartmark on May 27, 2009 14:58:31 GMT -5
What no VIP results? Could the no-shows be a reason? Or the low attendance? Come on, where is Ike the God to tell us how awesome VIP is?
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Post by a truthful opinion on May 27, 2009 15:39:31 GMT -5
The "No Shows" are really the "Never Calleds." Walt posted on his own board that Davey Richards didn't know he was even booked for VIP. Most of the other fellows were booked for IWA aka their home promotion. Ike and everyone else is too busy drinking Walt's tainted Koolaid to post on here about the downfalls of something that they tried to hype as better than what it really was.
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Post by therealsmartmark on May 27, 2009 16:08:03 GMT -5
So VIP promoted a show with talent they didn't even actually have booked? WOW!!!!
Now they are expecting to have a great show at the Freedom Fest to promote their product? Its a free show so there isn't much you can do to pay the talent that comes in.
With or without Davey Richards and the IWA guys, I heard the crowd was down considerably from the first show.
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Post by Roland The Thompson Gunner on May 27, 2009 17:31:02 GMT -5
Fix your own piece of feces show before you worry about what anyone else is doing. Of course that's asking alot from "the trailer park of professional wrestling".
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Post by iketurner on May 27, 2009 20:18:55 GMT -5
Im not getting into this again with you guys. You win. Sometimes crap happens. Im pretty sure i went over it before. I dont see you guys posting talking crap about CCW when they draw 22 fans or when guys they book no show, but whatever. You guys are right. Here are your results.......
I figure i'll throw together a little show review myself. First things first.....hats off to VIP management for being honest with everyone about the talent not showing up and lowering the ticket prices. I havent been to a show that has done that before. I thought the show ran smooth considering all the mess involved.
Shane Mathews def Private....im not sure what his name was but the Private isnt VIP material. I know it was a last minute kind of deal, but im here to give you what i think and thats what i will do. Im not huge on Mathews either, but at least he has some character.
JP Lightning def. Brandon Moreno....match was quick, but solid. I would have like to have seen them in a little longer match since they were two of the most talented people on the show and there were only 6 matches scheduled. That being said, JP is proving to be more than solid.
Aaron Scott def. Kasmir Hunk.....not a good outing for Hunk. Scott was always two steps ahead of him and it showed. Hunk has a good future, but right now its kind of rough. Seemed like the two never got on the same page.
Tony Kozina def Shank...Shank is good. Im a fan of his. Tony Kozina is the F"N man. Thanks to him for showing up and givin us all you got. Shank worked on Kozina's knee throughout. In the end Tony got the win but was then worked on by Shank and Full Throttle. JP and Hunk made the save and the 6 man tag main event was set.
MsChif vs Navaeh...match of the night, IMO. Hats off to the women for busting their ass to try and save the show. Im now a Naveah fan. Much better match for MsChif than Mia was. The neck breaker in the corner from Navaeh on MsChif was nice! Looked real brutal. In the end, MsChif proved why she is among the top womens wrestlers in the world today and got the win!
Full Throttle & Shank def. JP, Hunk & Tony Kozina.....Kozina was limited in this match because of the knee that Shank tore up earlier in the night. Full Throttle rules. They are always high impact and thats fun to watch. In the end, Full Throttle hit the doomsday bulldog for the victory.
It was nice to see Dave Matthews in a VIP ring. He is a great ref and i hope to see him back in the future. IMO, i got my money's worth. The 7 bucks was a nice touch. My moral was low when i found out i wasnt getting to see Davey vs Ego and that kinda ruined the show for me, but the in ring action wasnt bad at all, especially considering all the no shows. Shame on those guys for letting everyone down!
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Post by iketurner on May 27, 2009 20:27:12 GMT -5
The "No Shows" are really the "Never Calleds." Walt posted on his own board that Davey Richards didn't know he was even booked for VIP. Most of the other fellows were booked for IWA aka their home promotion. Ike and everyone else is too busy drinking Walt's tainted Koolaid to post on here about the downfalls of something that they tried to hype as better than what it really was. Dont talk about things you have no idea about. Davey was the only one who Walt said didnt know he was booked. The other guys WERE NOT booked for IWA. VIP has had them booked for over a month. An IWA employee on their board confirmed that as of friday night they were indeed heading to VIP. |
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Post by iketurner on May 27, 2009 20:28:30 GMT -5
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Post by a truthful opinion on May 27, 2009 21:41:07 GMT -5
Ike you might need to look in the mirror before you start calling people retarded. Walt only claimed not calling about Davey, but wasn't Davey Richards on the card just as long everyone else? If Walt is willing to fraud the fans with crap like this, would you as a worker really be willing to affiliate yourself with a crook that takes advantage of fans trust? Walt didn't just shoot himself in the foot, but he shot himself in the testicules and he grazed you and everyone that blindly helped him in the chin from kissing his bum. You guys were so quick to believe in a guy who obviously doesn't understand the business, and your dignity as well as your credibility took a major stomping because you believed in someone that has never been able to draw anything more than flies.
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Post by therealsmartmark on May 27, 2009 22:26:47 GMT -5
Ike you might need to look in the mirror before you start calling people retarded. Walt only claimed not calling about Davey, but wasn't Davey Richards on the card just as long everyone else? If Walt is willing to fraud the fans with crap like this, would you as a worker really be willing to affiliate yourself with a crook that takes advantage of fans trust? Walt didn't just shoot himself in the foot, but he shot himself in the testicules and he grazed you and everyone that blindly helped him in the chin from kissing his bum. You guys were so quick to believe in a guy who obviously doesn't understand the business, and your dignity as well as your credibility took a major stomping because you believed in someone that has never been able to draw anything more than flies. Game, Set, Match BTW, Ike is so depressed and diappointed he isn't even willing to fight for VIP anymore. You guys were warned. You told us it was the Ackers no one wanted to work for, well last I checked the Ackers didn't have anything to do with VIP. And what is "VIP quality" They have had one show. They don't even have a brand identity yet. |
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Post by iketurner on May 28, 2009 0:33:29 GMT -5
You guys should start a promotion. You are so smart. My dignity? Seriously? We are talking about a message board that frequents about 5 people here. My dignity is great. I just got a raise at work. I have 3 healthy, smart children at home. My wife just got a new job making more money than i do. We are going to start looking to buy a new house. Dignity? This is a wrestling board. When you dont state facts, you should be called on it. The fact of the matter is, buddy, you were wrong. I corrected you. As for credibility, like i said, i cant control what VIP does? How does that affect the Oboys credibility? All i know is Morris and I, brought 20 people to the show this weekend. I dont know any other fans anywhere around here that could pull that kind of things off. So basically what your saying is, if Walt says there is going to be a show with a TON of talent on it, we should just turn a blind eye to it because he cant be trusted? If CCW booked those same guys i would be there front and center. I dont care who books the talent, i will support it. Ive been over this a million times. Im not really supporting Walt, im supporting the wrestling. Ive been to CCW tons of times when guys no showed and i didnt see anyone telling me at the door or offering me a discount. It was crap for sure, but at least Walt stood at the door, told people whats up, then lowered the ticket prices. Im missing where he fooled anyone?
Its far from game, set, match. The game is only 2 shows in. If i had a dollar for every show id been to that was a let down, then i wouldnt even need to work. Im not giving up on VIP. I dont work for them. I do however, support them and i will continue too. If the shaddy things continue then i will stop going. WOW, that would mean you guys were right all along. Give yourself a pat on the back. Why dont you guys use your energy for positive things? Like maybe helping promote your show over at CCW? Doesnt sound like things are going much better over there at this point really?
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Post by a truthful opinion on May 28, 2009 0:58:41 GMT -5
We don't talk about CCW because we are ashamed of it. We trash VIP because we are jealous that people actually take intrest in something other than CCW.
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Post by therealsmartmark on May 28, 2009 10:07:42 GMT -5
Ike, when you talk so much crap about how awesome VIP is and how bad CCW sucks, you have to expect the backlash you're gonna get. CCW has more than 30 fans on a weekly basis BTW. SO you can retract your statement you made on the VIP board.
You said you were stepping away as a CCW fan so how would you know or even care about CCW attendance? Just stick to your little VIP shows and CCW will keep moving forward.
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Post by iketurner on May 28, 2009 10:21:16 GMT -5
Ike, when you talk so much crap about how awesome VIP is and how bad CCW sucks, you have to expect the backlash you're gonna get. CCW has more than 30 fans on a weekly basis BTW. SO you can retract your statement you made on the VIP board. You said you were stepping away as a CCW fan so how would you know or even care about CCW attendance? Just stick to your little VIP shows and CCW will keep moving forward. Moving forward? To what exactly? I have talked to people inside CCW. I know whats going on down there. Dont act like im just spewing false info here. I'll leave that to you guys. I never tried to make this CCW vs VIP. Again that was you guys. Once those cards were posted, the hate began. There was really no reason for it. The bottom line in the whole thing, is if your struggling yourself, dont try to talk trash about other people. How many times have i been to CCW and not gotten what was advertised? How many times? So put your energy toward CCW and you may get some results. Instead, you spend you time bashing VIP. Look, there are already more posts in this thread about VIP than there has been on the CCW board in months. Why dont you try to bring 20 people with you to a CCW show or make some flyers for a CCW show and go market that product. You know how many people in Evansville we gave those flyers to that said......thats not the sh it they run down at the coliseum is it? Thats not me slamming CCW, thats me being truthful. Those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. |
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Post by therealsmartmark on May 28, 2009 11:10:33 GMT -5
And Im guessing you didn't bother to tell them that the people in charge of VIP are the same people that turned CCW into that crap product did you?
I don't believe for one second you talk to anyone inside CCW. No one inside CCW would give a mark such as yourself any kind of info except directions to the ticket booth.
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Post by jasonbriley on May 28, 2009 12:47:53 GMT -5
Enough back and forth ... unless you really enjoy it! I would like to personally invite "iketurner" back to CCW. Me and a few others put a lot of time, effort, thought, blood, sweat and tears into CCW every single week!! We want the show to succeed (more so than certain people prior). While I can definitely see how the "certain people" got burnt out on all of it before, I also must add, that is why it takes more than one person to operate a constant weekly show. The NEW CCW is operating as a team for once in a long time!! If you, iketurner or anyone else, would like to be a part of that team... please let me know! The NEW CCW and any of its "true" affiliates do not or should not bash any other promotion. That is not how I or anyone involved with the new CCW thinks or feels things should be! Meaning the past ways are the past... If anyone believes my words (as cheesy as they may sound), please email me email@jasonbriley.com and we can discuss how you can be a part of something big! We are bringing wrestling back to Evansville ... or a less argumentative approach: we are bringing wrestling back to the Evansville Coliseum!!! Email me! ;D |
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