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Post by CCW Insider on Feb 9, 2011 17:01:26 GMT -5
Well well well. Here you are again smackin CCW. Not a suprize at all. When things go well for us people are always lining up to talk trash. People have been plainin CCWs funeral for years and we still here kickin ass an takin names. Jamie dont care bout CCW huh well hes here every single week helping bring asses to the seats. We makin money week after week so i dont know how you can say the show is never sucsessful. All these guest names runnin round here talkin ish obviously from the other wanna be promotion that cant even afford to run in Evansville anymore. Those dudes are the same guys who ran CCW into the ground, postin under tons of fake names back then and still postin under tons of fake names now. Guess what dudes anyone can do that ish. Just because you lost your asses friday night dont mean you have to come over and talk trash bout the fed runnin a town you couldnt. Bunch of marks keep on losing money and keep runnin your mouth because you wont be running shows or your mouths much longer.
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Post by Chris Mathews on Feb 9, 2011 21:33:49 GMT -5
Well well well. Here you are again smackin CCW. Not a suprize at all. When things go well for us people are always lining up to talk trash. People have been plainin CCWs funeral for years and we still here kickin ass an takin names. Jamie dont care bout CCW huh well hes here every single week helping bring asses to the seats. We makin money week after week so i dont know how you can say the show is never sucsessful. All these guest names runnin round here talkin ish obviously from the other wanna be promotion that cant even afford to run in Evansville anymore. Those dudes are the same guys who ran CCW into the ground, postin under tons of fake names back then and still postin under tons of fake names now. Guess what dudes anyone can do that ish. Just because you lost your asses friday night dont mean you have to come over and talk trash bout the fed runnin a town you couldnt. Bunch of marks keep on losing money and keep runnin your mouth because you wont be running shows or your mouths much longer. Where to even start with this post? Can't afford to run in Evansville? I say go where the money is. Evansville wrestling scene is dead. Im not sure what show you are talking about losing on Friday night, but if you are talking about MECW then you couldn't be more wrong. Just ask Jamie Dundee, he was there leaching around the whole night. Ask him how many people came to that show. There more people at that show than ANY show CCW has EVER ran. No one is running there mouth except jealous CCW employees who want so bad for their show to be talked about again. Good luck with whatever masterful plan you have to keep people from talking about your crap show. Also good luck with that plan to put MECW out of business. They passed ccw up long ago. And margin isn't getting any slimmer. |
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Post by Shark Man on Feb 10, 2011 1:29:23 GMT -5
The Shark Man just wants to know which is it?? Chad Mathews, Chris Mathews, FYI, Nic Wood? Since ya ignored me in the other thread i was just curious. Seems the mecw fellas have beef with anyone around here but the Shark Man picks a fight and you go silent on me. You fellas aint as easy as them KY boys. By the way, ive seen your show. I wouldnt be actin like i was Vinny Mac or nothin. Not bad not great but no way good enough to have the egos u fellas have. And dream, u were right not to come down out of the balcony. Just sayin.
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Post by Chris Mathews on Feb 10, 2011 7:55:02 GMT -5
Im not anyone else on here. Im not chad mathews im not fyi. I am Chris Mathews and I am a fan. I am not affiliated with any company. I come to ccw shows i go to mecw shows i have even went to new focus shows.
if the mecw people have an ego its their right. the only ego i see is the guy claiming ccw is the best because they have been around longer. Which doesn't mean anything to me. The quality of their shows isn't what it used to be not even near it. I enjoy the mecw shows more right now. thats my opinion. if the ccw insider doesn't like it, to bad.
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Post by CCW Insider on Feb 10, 2011 11:49:45 GMT -5
Since your just a mark and not behind the scenes as you claim then you dont even know what your talking about. When i said lost money i meant they paid out more than they had coming in. A mark like yourself would have no idea how much money a company lost on a show. As for the evansville wrestling scene being dead you need to as the over 600 people who paid to watch OUR show last week. As for Jamie Dundee leaching, i dont think he had to leach anywhere with the dolla bills he cashed in with tha legends show. As for out drawin us, i doubt it. In a few months when those marks runnin the other show run out of money in tha personal savings, the shows will stop. Bet.
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Post by iketurner on Feb 10, 2011 12:34:35 GMT -5
Well well well. Here you are again smackin CCW. Not a suprize at all. When things go well for us people are always lining up to talk trash. People have been plainin CCWs funeral for years and we still here kickin ass an takin names. Jamie dont care bout CCW huh well hes here every single week helping bring asses to the seats. We makin money week after week so i dont know how you can say the show is never sucsessful. All these guest names runnin round here talkin ish obviously from the other wanna be promotion that cant even afford to run in Evansville anymore. Those dudes are the same guys who ran CCW into the ground, postin under tons of fake names back then and still postin under tons of fake names now. Obviously fans and promoters have a different outlook on success. To you, success is to make money. To me, success is to have a well known show that is respected by many. This is not CCW. I wish it was, but its not. As for the fake name things. I remember the VIP days, when said people ran CCW, not MECW did the same stuff. That is not lost on me. If those people are the same guys talking s**t about us indy fans, then i will not only lose any respect for them but i would be more than happy to tell them that right to their faces. Enough tip toeing around the issue. FYI makes a comment about Nic Wood making a logo for CCW. Obviously there arent many people who would know, or care about that. Shows your someone invovled with MECW. Now there is no way to know who you guys are, because you would never admit to it. Lets just say, it isnt helping your promotion. You can post making fun of us all day, but its obvious people are pretty worried about it, if they harbor that much ill will toward a group of fans for no real reason. It is what it is, i just hope its not MECW people. Can't afford to run in Evansville? I say go where the money is. Evansville wrestling scene is dead. Ive been saying this for quite sometime. Its without a doubt dead from any real modern day independent wrestling. A card with anyone not a "former" or "legend" is indeed doomed. However, you can still run Evansville with a card that is filled with classics. CCW did draw about 500-600 people last week by doing this. Honestly, i think using 1-2 legends and younger modern day talent could work. I mean, i doubt those people paid $20 bucks to see Shawn Shultz or Lonestar or Dr Blue. You change those guys with better, up and coming talent and i think you could still draw, as long as your main event was Dundee v Lawler. Not saying this to be the gospel truth or anything, because obviously i dont know. Just my opinion. No one is running there mouth except jealous CCW employees who want so bad for their show to be talked about again. This is not true. There were tons of people, who arent from CCW running off at the mouth over on the MISC board just a while back. Actually, im kind of shocked to hear anything from anyone from CCW. Hell, they cant even answer a question about an upcoming card. A fan had to do it. I honestly think they could care less about people talking about their show. You fellas aint as easy as them KY boys. And dream, u were right not to come down out of the balcony. Just sayin. We are pretty easy when you call us out on BS. As for not coming down, i hate Sharks. Next time, will bring my anti shark repellent from the original Batman movie! |
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Post by Chris Mathews on Feb 10, 2011 12:38:23 GMT -5
Man you guys at ccw are top notch. I don't have to be behind the scenes to know if a show made money or not. I do know that ccw didn't have 600 people at any of their shows. Jamie Dundee may have had 600 (which I doubt, I was there) but ccw didn't.
Why does it matter to you if someone is using their personal bank account to run their wrestling shows? I have read on this board since may of 2010 how mecw won't last much longer and how they are running out of money. Well they are still here, like you say, kicking ass and taking names.
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Post by CCW Insider on Feb 10, 2011 16:39:02 GMT -5
dont have to be behind the scenes to know if a show makes money. So off the top of your head you know all the costs that go into running a show. not only that but your own guy himself said tickets were being given away for free. Just because some people show up doesnt make your show a sucsess. We had 600 last week and they were 600 PAID fans. Since may of 2010 huh well thats not very long. Not even a year son. And in this time how many shows have you marks held? like 6? If things were all sunshine and roses like you say i think you guys would have more than 1 show every 3 months. Down here at CCW we rock it out every week and have been for over 10 years. You guys didnt make it for 3 months in this town. You marks had to take it on the road. The only thing wrong with using a personal bank account to run show is its stupid. If you want a hobby to spend money on you should just hit up the strip clubs. That would be more entertaining than your shows.
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Post by jayboro on Feb 10, 2011 17:39:41 GMT -5
I just find it to be very unprofessional when people obviously connected to MECW get on here and bash other federations. I mean you guys aren't exactly tearing the indy scene up. I have no dog in this fight, just an Oboy and an avid wrestling fan thriving for good wrestling in the area. With that being said, with the way these folks from MECW are representing themselves, I will most likely NEVER attend another show of theirs regardless of the product they bring to the ring. And before you get on and say "hey what does one fan from Owensboro matter?", it actually matters more than ya think. One turns to two, two to four and so on, you get my point.
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Post by chadmatthews on Feb 11, 2011 0:01:44 GMT -5
Just a few things I want to say...
1) MECW has no beef with The Legends Showdown folks. In fact, Jamie Dundee was a welcomed guest at the 2-4 show. Must be a slow news day around here.
2) Thank you for giving me the credit for being sharp enough to be 4,573 different posters while being able to keep them straight without accidentally outing myself. Maybe you PIs need to check the grassy knoll, instead of the schoolbook depository, huh?
3) MECW definitely did not lose money on the 2-4 show. We'll just leave it at that.
4) It seems just as in every story, people always need a protagonist and an antagonist. On this board lately, MECW has been painted by the posters as the antagonist. The almighty heel. Ok, here's the lowdown: MECW simply strives to provide area wrestling fans great entertainment, one weekend a month. We may not give you every guy that you want to see, but one thing is certain; we sure as hell produce a friendly, entertaining production in which every player on the team gives 110%. It's your choice whether you like the product, or like the brand, or like the personnel (Me), or none of the above. If you really knew how much MECW considers the fans when each show is planned, you'd probably reevaluate your negative views about us, the bad guys.
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Post by fathajay on Feb 11, 2011 4:41:15 GMT -5
wow! that almost sounds religious! 1. thou shall have "no beef"! 2. thou shall give "no credit" before me! 3. fans bring thy tithe(aka. ticket) unto me, until my cup runnith over. 4. and who of all people is "the almighty heel"? lol! tracy smothers is close but, it aint him lol! im not trying to knock anybody, im just saying thats some funny poop to me. sorry if i messed up anyone flow on here. ;D peace out....
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Post by iketurner on Feb 11, 2011 12:44:04 GMT -5
A few more things to say....
Let me be the first to say that i dont know who is here posting under tons of guest names? No idea. All i said is the signs sure point to it being someone at least in the know in MECW. I dont know if thats you or whoever, dont really care at this point. Hell, for all anyone knows, its someone trying to act like someone from MECW. The bottom line is, who cares. I dont need to have good guys and bad guys on this board. I was just mindin my own business when people started to make stalker-like comments. They painted me as the bad guy. Whatever. Im putting it to bed. I will continue to talk about shows that interest me. Wrestlers that interest me. If someones got a problem with it, they can blow me. When MECW, NFW, or CCW puts on a show i want to see, i'll be there. Its that simple.
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Post by Josh Stratton on Feb 18, 2011 12:20:13 GMT -5
WOW! I stay away for a couple of weeks and everything goes to hell. First off let me say that I have not posted anything on any forum ever as anyone besides Nic Wood, Josh Stratton, and a few years ago as Rorshach. I have nothing to to with all of this hoopla. I have absolutely nothing against anyone in wrestling.
I will be the first to admit that I have burned bridges in my day, but I have always stepped up as a real man and addressed those people and apologized for my mouth. It's actually quite the contrary to what seems to be popular belief. I have been writing articles on examiner.com promoting ALL of the local promotions.
I saw Jamie at the show in Vincennes and had some kind words with him, actually I still have a shirt of his after going out with him and Brian Christopher once (funny stories extra).
Not only do I have nothing to do with all the mud being slung, but I have friends in all of those buildings. I would never do anything to tick off Brian Acker, Buzz Dupp, huh maybe J Grunge (lol just kidding J), Master Rich, Pondo, Jamie Dundee, or anyone. I've been doing this for too long and know better.
I am curious on who put my name on blast as designing the logo for CCW back in the day. That is true and it wasn't a secret. I did a lot of things for CCW, like everyone else and never asked anything for it. The logo is copywriten but I let them continue to use it. When I left CCW if may have been under bad terms, but I never said a word about the logo. Nor does it matter, what the hell am I going to do with it? I am glad that they are still using it. It's kind of cool to see something you designed being used on a regular basis.
From what I have been hearing, all of the local promotions have been putting on great shows. A little friendly competition is always good for business, but this petty ish is just that, petty ish!
Please do me a solid and leave my name off of your keyboards, unless of course you are talking about how tremendous I sound on the mic, or if you want to critique my commentary, or if you want to tell me how much you hate my brother KG. I have no hard feelings about ANYONE in CCW, NFW, or even MECW. I have brothers in all three promotions.
Have fun with your bickering, just know that this is my first and only post on the subject. Scouts honor!
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