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Post by iketurner on Aug 9, 2007 13:13:21 GMT -5
Well id be a liar to say I wasn’t disappointed with the show last night. I don’t wanna come here and run the show down completely because I know people worked hard to make the show a success. That being said, I think this new owner thing is getting out of hand. Where the hell is this guy? I mean Lonestar led into introducing him perfectly, and then nothing happened. Id say the first showing from New Order Entertainment was pretty sub-par honestly. CCW has been bringing in talent that is just as good, or better than what I saw last night. No Mitch, No Tracy, but they were replaced by guys who were not on their standard, IMO. So if your reading this Mr no show new owner, I suggest you bring it next time, because there were a lot of people let down last night. Im tired of reading, im coming soon, ill be there next year, blah blah blah….you can only carry that on so long before people get bored with it, and wonder if you even really exist. Not trying to be harsh here, but im giving an honest review. Anywho, here are my results…….. 1.Fury & Death Psi def. Havoc and Dr Blue. I think Death Psi hit a 450 on the Doc. This match was all over the place. Not a big fan. Sorry guys. 2.Billy”Junk” “Tha Killer” Hardaway def something Victory when he hit him with a chain. Dr Blue came out and distracted Dave and threw Billy the chain. I like Hardaway, I think he there is some talent there. Jack Victory’s brother, was decent, so it made for a watchable match. 3.Chewy Martenez and Hugh Rogue def JV Insanity and ??young looking J Grunge with hair. This match was a total beat down. Thanks to Sam for trying to bring back the hardcore. I enjoyed watching JV take a beating because that is all he does well. If I never saw JV insanity again, I think I would be fine. Hugh and Chewy were good, I wouldn’t mind seeing them again. Sorry if I spell these guys names wrong, im no Big Lee. 4.Mark Anthony def. Derek King and Picture Perfect???. I like Mark Anthony. He has some pretty sweet moves for a big guy. Id like to see him vs. lonestar. Im not huge on Derek King, but the Picture Perfect guy was decent. At least these are some new faces. 5.Tim Renesto def JP Lightning in the match of the night by far. Im on the Tim Renesto bandwagon from now on. Lightning is really starting to get better. The story in the match, made it fun. I like how Scarlett turned, I didn’t really think that was coming. I suppose she heard I was staying the night with Renesto and she wanted to see me . Anywho, I enjoyed myself during this one. 6.BJ Whitmer def Chris Michaels in OT. The match went to a 20 minute time limit draw, with about 19 of those minutes used up with arm bars. In the OT, BJ won with a roll up. Michaels is about as fun to watch as paint drying. Id rather seen BJ against someone else. I was very disappointed in this match to say the least. It will go down as the worst BJ Whitmer match ive seen in CCW. Sorry 7.Brian Christopher def. Lonestar. Decent match, the crowd loves some Brian Christopher and I don’t mind him much either. I saw Terry Bull and 2 Tuff Tony, I thought something might go down with the new owner, but I was wrong. I think the fact that I was waiting for him to show himself, but didn’t hurt the match for me. Thanks to Walt for giving us props on the intermissions. Good job on those last night, I thought the show ran really smooth. I think since 666 CCW took a step back, but can easily recover. I lay down a challenge to the new owner to bring his A game on the September show, because so far im un-impressed.
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Post by oboy_canadiandream on Aug 9, 2007 23:50:40 GMT -5
Sorry to call out my fellow O-Boys, but what is up with everyone making their own thread for their Results? From now on, lets just have one thread. Anyway, here is mine:
When we first got there, we hit the concession stand. We saw Terry Bull walk in and I was thinking he was going to wrestle so I was happy, but that wasn't to be unfortunately. As usual, the show didn't start on time and for some reason, this time, the music was brutal...N'Sync, Country....no more of that please. That's not music to get people hype for a wrestling show. Let's go back to ACDC or some DIO please.
1. Fury & Death Psi vs. Havoc & Dr Blue. -This match was kinda chaotic. Death Psi is ok, but I could honestly do without pretty much everyone else. The match had no purpose really. There was no real reason to care why either team won.
2. Billy "Junk" Hardaway vs. Lee Victory -I thought that Lee Victory was pretty good. I've always thought that Hardaway had potential. This match was decent, until the end. I could've done without having to see Dr. Blue again.
3.Chuy Martinez & Hugh Rogue vs. JV Insanity & Smokey C -Brutal. Chuy's weight was announced as fatass, which was funny. This was my first time seeing Chuy and Rogue. I've never been a JV fan (quite the opposite actually). It looked like "Junior Varsity" Insanity (props to Morris Day on the nickname) and his partner didn't want any part of their opponents or the match in general. That was hilarious when JV got winded swinging the stop sign and then Chuy just destroyed him. This match was a one sided beating, but I enjoyed it.
Intermission -THE INTERMISSION WAS ACTUALLY SHORT. Thanks Walt! Oh and thanks for the shout out.
4. Mark Anthony vs. Derek King vs. "Picture Perfect" Christian Jacobs -Mark Anthony was really good, especially for a big guy. I never was a Derek King fan and have never seen Picture Perfect before, but it was a decent match. Mark Anthony about killed himself pulling off a moonsault.
5. Tim Renesto vs. JP Lightning -Honestly, I wasn't expecting much out of this match, but it surpassed expectations. I have always thought JP had potential and I had never seen Renesto. Renesto has an awesome look (like Ronnie James DIO). I thought he should've came out to Man on the Silver Mountain. Scarlett is hot and actually showed some emotion (maybe she listened to Fang...DiCapo.) Renesto is funny/awesome on the mic ("Bring her out or I ain't wrestling".) The story really added to the match. The ending was cool and Renesto's stalling piledriver was amazing. It was also awesome when Renesto hit him with the saw.
6. BJ Whitmer vs. Chris "Master of the Armbar" Michaels -BJ is from Owensboro, even though he doesn't claim us. As usual, we yelled Owensboro over Walt announcing him from Cincinnati. He actually heard us this time though, because he started laughing. Haha. Good stuff. What was up with all the restholds? Oh yeah, it was a Chris Micheals match. How many times can you say, "I'm gonna break it" or "Where is your (insert wrestler here) chants now?" In the beginning of the match, the crowd was really into it with chants and then later, we looked around and they were dead. They majorly lost the crowd with all of the stalling and restholds. Usually after a BJ Whitmer match that goes to a 20 minute time limit, the crowd would be chanting 5 more minutes but the crowd actually had to pretty much be talked into it. Don't get wrong, the match did have some decent moments (like the Exploder and the parts when BJ was in control and not doing armbars himself), but it had way too many restholds for my liking. The only actual move I remember Micheals doing (outside of armbars and arm drags) was the Neckbreaker and the Superkick (his finisher). Sorry for being so harsh, but I was majorly disappointed and as you can see, I'm not a Chris Micheals fan.
7. Brian Christopher vs. Lonestar. -I definitely had no interest in this match at the beginning and pretty much only stuck around to see the owner reveal himself, which unfortunately did not happen. The match actually ended up being alright though. I was hoping the owner was Terry Bull and even though he had told me right before the match that he isn't the owner, I still almost thought that he was going to run in at the end.
Although I was majorly disappointed in the BJ/Micheals match, I did have a pretty fun time. Even though it started late, the show didn't really drag on, which is a major improvement. Thanks majorly for keeping the intermissions short. That had been my major complaint in the past.
About the September show: Hopefully Claudio and Hero live up to their promise and are at that show. A word to the owner: Please give them formidable opponents. NO CHRIS MICHEALS. If you have to, have them wrestle each other. That works for me. I'm bummed that Tracy isn't with CCW anymore, but hopefully Mitch Ryder will be at the September show. Hopefully Mark Wolf will be there too.
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Post by wesjorden on Aug 10, 2007 0:48:29 GMT -5
Man, considering everyone is writing a summary on this maybe I should. I've decided I'm going to keep most of my comments to myself. I will say this, my match of the night was def. JP and Renesto. I never thought I'd say this, but JP you went to a whole new lever last night. I hope you build off this. Renesto, that sick to my stomach pile-driver, no words can describe it.
One thing that is getting old is seeing Dr. Blu interfere. Killa and Victory had a pretty good match going on, till it was annihilated by Dr. Blu.
BJ and Michaels match went from interesting to about putting me asleep honestly. One of the few times I've ever seen a crowd that didn't want a longer match.
Over all a great show. Looking forward to seeing Hero and Claudio in the near future. One last note whomever allowed Tracy to walk should be fired and banned from CCW for life. You can not replace a Tracy Smothers on the card. Sorry.
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Post by techn9ne1730 on Aug 10, 2007 2:28:37 GMT -5
I felt my review was kind of lack luster. Might add on it later.
1.Fury & Death Psi def. Havoc and Dr Blue. DeathPsi is probably my favorite wrestler in CCW, but sadly this match was sub par to his typical match.
2.Billy”Junk” “Tha Killer” Hardaway def something Victory, again not one of Billy's better matches.
3.Chewy Martenez and Hugh Rogue def JV Insanity and ??young looking J Grunge with hair. The match was definitely one sided but was entertaining none the less. The match needed more time but I think Chewey really connected with the crowd. Now we just need to get guys like this back once a week or maybe once a month to do some hardcore matches.
4.Mark Anthony def. Derek King and Picture Perfect Christian Jacobs. Mark seemed like an odd man to book in the match as he was in the main event last week. I saw Pot Head John walking around and think he would have been a better fit in the match then Mark Anthony. Instead maybe Mark should have faced B.J. instead.
5.Tim Renesto def JP Lightning this was a great showing by the two. Lots of good near falls and the brawling really helped sell the angle.
6.BJ Whitmer def Chris Michaels in OT. I am not a big fan of B.J. Not to take anything away from his talent I just haven't found him that entertaining since the demise of his tag team with Jimmy Jacobs. Regardless the match seemed to go on to long. The stipulation should have been used for JP vs Tim instead. They could have pulled off a more entertaining match and the draw/O.T. would have just added a nice touch. None the less the draw/O.T. was some what of a fresh finish.
7.Brian Christopher def. Lonestar. Wasn't a half bad match, but wasn't to great. As Ike said Star set up a perfect entrance for the new owner but still a no show.
Now I appreciate the effort on every ones part but you cant expect a great show when you have one match out of 7 that has a story line imo. I was impressed the card actually resembled the show we got pretty closely. I hope we continue to see shows resemble the card.
When it comes to the new owner I have a feeling we will not even get a new owner.
I was hopping to see the likes of 2 Tuff Tony,Terry Bull and/or AT Bull come out to the ring lead by the new owner. Jay and Viper would have been other good choices to accompany the new owner to the ring. The new owner thing has alot of potential, but I am honestley expecting for it to slowly fade off just to be another dropped angle.
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Post by biglee1901 on Aug 10, 2007 5:05:52 GMT -5
2.Billy”Junk” “Tha Killer” Hardaway def something Victory when he hit him with a chain. Dr Blue came out and distracted Dave and threw Billy the chain. I like Hardaway, I think he there is some talent there. Jack Victory’s brother, was decent, so it made for a watchable match. . thanks a lot for mentioning the chain, I didn't get a good look at the object
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Post by biglee1901 on Aug 10, 2007 5:20:00 GMT -5
About the September show: Hopefully Claudio and Hero live up to their promise and are at that show. A word to the owner: Please give them formidable opponents. NO CHRIS MICHEALS. If you have to, have them wrestle each other. I like that idea, and for the fact that Chris Hero was still babyface when he was last seen in CCW
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Post by iketurner on Aug 10, 2007 14:10:03 GMT -5
Let me clarify, that i did have fun at the show and the show wasnt bad at all. I just think the new owner set the expectations much to high and that hurt the overall feeling of the show, for me. Another thing, no one has talked about is, where was Todd Morton? I guess its not that big of a deal since no one seems to care anyway.
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Post by techn9ne1730 on Aug 10, 2007 15:22:13 GMT -5
Todd worked the XCW shows on Tuesday night, so I am curious to as to why he did not show up.
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Post by oboy_canadiandream on Aug 10, 2007 15:42:08 GMT -5
4. Mark Anthony def. Derek King and Picture Perfect Christian Jacobs. Mark seemed like an odd man to book in the match as he was in the main event last week. I saw Pot Head John walking around and think he would have been a better fit in the match then Mark Anthony. Instead maybe Mark should have faced B.J. instead. I cringed about PHJ being put in that match when I first read it, but it probably would've made the BJ match better by having him wrestle Mark Anthony. I would've just left PHJ out and made it a singles match personally, but thats just me. Another thing, no one has talked about is, where was Todd Morton? I guess its not that big of a deal since no one seems to care anyway. I thought about including that, but I didn't really mind that much that he no showed. He no shows a lot of the shows he is booked on (although it is weird on this one since he was at XCW as mentioned above). He is really good and funny on the mic, but wasn't gonna have a 5 star match, so it didn't hurt the show that bad that he wasn't there.
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Post by techn9ne1730 on Aug 11, 2007 4:42:51 GMT -5
4. Mark Anthony def. Derek King and Picture Perfect Christian Jacobs. Mark seemed like an odd man to book in the match as he was in the main event last week. I saw Pot Head John walking around and think he would have been a better fit in the match then Mark Anthony. Instead maybe Mark should have faced B.J. instead. I cringed about PHJ being put in that match when I first read it, but it probably would've made the BJ match better by having him wrestle Mark Anthony. I would've just left PHJ out and made it a singles match personally, but thats just me. Not the first time I havent hear positive thoughts on PHJ, but personally I find him entertaining. To each there own.
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Post by Dirty Don Matt di Capo on Aug 12, 2007 10:25:30 GMT -5
Sounds like the payoff as to the identity of the "new owner" is still awaiting. Nice psychology by the booker to keep the mystery building. Curiosity always kills the cat. Always. I'd like to see a few individuals "accused" of being the mole before the possible swerve of the actual owner is revealed. It keeps the audience involved and keeps them convinced they've "figured it out" before the rug is jerked back out from under them. Just like the game Clue. It's Clue, only on a different platform. Scarlett Rose turns heel?! As Dusty Rhodes said to Baby Doll after her heel turn back in JCP circa 1986, "Shame on you, mama!" Nice story by the bookerman. Maybe we see Renesto-Rose go the avenue of Kevin Sullivan-Woman in Florida Championship Wrestling, again circa 1980s. (Note: Jim Crockett Promotions and Florida Championship Wrestling is prerequisite viewing material for all serious wrestling fans.) So, remember, a little bit of the "darkside" never hurt anyone and what a perfect pair to do this story with in CCW. Keep Purple Haze and Mayah Singh buried, however. If Chris Champion would ever return, would Renesto and The Black Rose be material for a reincarnation of The Synnistry? Sounds like a mixed bag from reading the posts. Nice subjective accounts by everyone. The 9-12 show should be good, building on those storylines. Any subtitles for this show? "A Hero's Welcome" "Freedom Fighters" Back from the beach, Capo
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Post by iketurner on Aug 12, 2007 17:04:40 GMT -5
Do u get the feeling, they are keeping us guessing or there just isnt a new owner? I think it would be different if there was some more hype for this guy, but there really isnt much, new owner talk around here or even at the show. Im starting to have my doubts. You would think he would be here to respond to the critisim he has taken over the past few days, but i hear crickets in here.
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Post by wesjorden on Aug 12, 2007 18:52:38 GMT -5
ike, keeping everyone guessing, yes. Your right, there's no hype. You noticed the new owner doesn't even have a name like mr..........no change in the guard at CCW.
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Post by Dirty Don Matt di Capo on Aug 12, 2007 18:57:00 GMT -5
For this angle to be successful there has to be an impact person carve a new face on CCW. In my opinion, this angle is a great way to further gain momentum for a sequence of better shows and launch a new era of CCW. If the "new owner" never materializes or he/she is someone who people don't care about - the story will fizzle and fans will scratch their heads and leave disappointed.
Capo
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Post by techn9ne1730 on Aug 12, 2007 23:02:22 GMT -5
Do u get the feeling, they are keeping us guessing or there just isnt a new owner? Both. I think there keeping us guessing and that there is no new owner. I see your point capo and wes in regards to the pay off but i think the pay off should have been wednesday night. If they want to play a guessing game with trickery like Tony and Terry Bull being there, and if they keep this up who knows who may show up, but they should have been playing the guessing game over the past month or two rather then starting last night.
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